Queen Victoria's Children - Ep 2 - A Domestic Tyrant
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Apr 5, 2025
Series exploring the reign of Victoria through her personal relationships. This episode concentrates on Victoria's relationship with her daughters.
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Queen Victoria, the great matriarch, reigned over a quarter of the world
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To her subjects, she was revered as queen. To her family, she was often feared as a domestic tyrant
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Queen Victoria's desire to control her children, I think, was... pathological. She ruled the roost domestically, and she was just jolly well determined that
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her children were going to behave like subjects. As they grew into manhood, her sons could
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break free from Victoria's clutches, but the daughters were always kept on a far tighter
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rein by their demanding mother. Everything with Victoria was about me, my needs, my need
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for love, my need for care, my need for company. It was never, ever really a case of, what
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What can I do for them? In danger of being suffocated, the daughters hit back
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Louise is not prepared just to do what her mother says, but always comes out fighting
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In a great untold family saga, the headstrong princesses fought to escape their mother
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They shocked the queen by forging their own independent lives. And there was more
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A marriage to an alleged homosexual. A career risking disease and death
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a scandal with a renowned artist, a passion for revolutionary ideas. And in daring to tear up the Queen's rulebook
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they became unlikely champions of the independence of women. Her daughters, they really wanted to see the position of women changing
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and they were all slowly and gradually working in their own societies to try and bring about a change in women's lives
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But Queen Victoria was not going to let her daughters go. where the daughters go without a fight
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Osborne House, Queen Victoria's holiday home on the Isle of Wight, where she and her husband Prince Albert
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came to find peace and seclusion from the world. Here, the royal children could roam freely
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Little did they know they were then at the heart of Victoria and Albert's master plan
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to mould the perfect royal dynasty, role models for the nation and marriage partners for European royalty
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Victoria and Albert had quite well-worked ideas about what the future of their children should be
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even down to selecting who else among the royal houses of Europe
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might be suitable for marriage partners. The five royal princesses were not meant to have independent lives
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Their destinies were to be controlled by the queen. She let them know at all times that she wasn't just their mother
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she was their queen, and they had no chance to disobey her
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They weren't allowed to by law. Victoria was to find that she couldn't always have it her own way
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In a drama of conflict and determination, as the daughters grew up, they were to challenge their set roles as princesses and women
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Clever Vicky, the Princess Royal, would outrage the Queen with her radical ideas
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Alice, devoted as a child, so disobeyed her mother that Victoria once called her the real devil in the family
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Beautiful Louise was to shock with her rebellious spirit and controversial causes
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And loyal Beatrice, who lived chained to her mother's side, would bid for freedom through marriage to the love of her life
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But in the 1850s, the young princesses were living in an idyllic regal bubble
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Privilege was their life. Louise, for example, grew up as a toddler
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She would put her hand out if she met anyone in the corridor
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Little, tiny, chubby little legs wandering around, saw somebody, out would go her hand
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They were expected to kiss it, which indeed they did. They were taught never to forget their position as princesses
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Their governess told them, Go, my dear. Put yourself in the best place before everybody
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In 1861, the settled world of the princesses came crashing down. Their father, Prince Albert, died at the young age of 42
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the daughters didn't just have to deal with their own bereavement but also the overwhelming grief of
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their needy mother a governess predicted catastrophe the worst father worst is yet to come and no one
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bore the brunt of their mother's grief more than the four-year-old beatrice
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Victoria clung to Beatrice, absolutely clung to her almost from the moment Albert died
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In fact, one of the first things she did when Albert died was rush up to the nursery and
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grasp the sleeping child to her bosom and took Beatrice into her bed with her
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Sweet little Beatrice comes to lie in my bed every morning, which is a great comfort
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I so long to cling to and clasp a living being. Beatrice became a sort of mourning toy for Victoria
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She cuddled Beatrice to her. And the image that always comes up is of her sort of almost like sucking the life out of it
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It's almost vampiric, trying to extract something from her that really no four-year-old child can possibly give
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Looking back on this, we could say that the way Victoria behaves towards Beatrice almost amounts to a sort of child abuse
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It has a very profound effect on Beatrice's psyche, on her outlook, on her whole personality, and it's hard not to see that as cruel
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Beatrice was not alone. Albert's death seemed to intensify Victoria's darker side all of the
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princesses were to be dominated by their self-obsessed controlling mother she really just felt that all she'd ever wanted was her and Albert and she
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really makes the children feel dreadful about it I mean she seemed to have
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blamed the children very much she would I think much rather have lost her
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children than her husband. Where once the royal homes Windsor and Osborne were places for fun and play they were now mausoleums of grief The oldest princess Vicky remarked Everything is so different
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The old life, the old customs have gone. Victoria seemed more interested in her past
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than the children's future. She had her late husband's clothes laid out daily
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in his dressing room. hot water for his shaving was delivered each morning she preserved his apartments exactly as
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they had always been there are ways in which albert's death is never quite acknowledged there's
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something about the coming of the next generation that she finds very difficult because i suppose
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there's a sense in which albert's death and albert himself are receding back into history and she's
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She's doing absolutely everything she can to stop that from happening. At the time of Albert's death, Victoria's five daughters
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ranged from four to 21 years old. The princesses had a problem, how to cope with their unmanageable mother
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Vicky had found independence by marrying a German prince and moving to Berlin
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It fell to the 18-year-old Princess Alice to take on the burden of the grieving Queen
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In a sense, Alice almost took the place of Albert after he died
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She comforted Victoria, you know, she tried to be a stable presence
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a rock that Albert had been. She didn't cry in her mother's presence
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She held back her tears. She'd cry only alone in her room. she really threw herself wholeheartedly into making Victoria's life bearable
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Alice didn't only give emotional support to her widowed mother she also took
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charge of the Queen's official business Alice effectively was the only person
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having close access to the Queen the whole world was shut out there were very
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few people allowed to have any contact with her in those first few months so alice would be the
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one to steer essential papers in her direction that needed signing but it was very difficult
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for the business of government after albert died and alice really was effectively the only intermediary
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the demanding role took its toll on the young princess apparently physically it was hard on her
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because a nice porty girl turns into an anorexic wreck and her fiance was totally flabbergasted when
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he saw her again albert's plan had been to draw germany and britain together through royal into
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marriage before he died he had arranged alice's engagement to a german prince louis of hesse
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Victoria was in a quandary. She could not bear to lose her daughter
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but her late husband's wishes had to be respected. Six months after his death, the marriage went ahead
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But there was to be no grand wedding, just a small service in the yellow drawing room at Osborne House
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for the grieving queen her daughter's joy was no cause for celebration
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poor alice's wedding more like a funeral than a wedding is over and she is a wife i say god bless
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her though a dagger is plunged in my bleeding desolate heart when i hear from her this morning
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that she is proud and happy to be louise's wife it's not oh i'm so happy for you you have a
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husband who loves you it's oh i'm so sorry for me because i haven't got anyone anymore
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and she was like that with all her children and alice was allowed out of deep mourning for about
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a day to wear white and went away with an entire trousseau of black it was very grim
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By marrying, Alice escaped her mother's suffocating grief. Her new life was to be a minor royal in provincial Germany
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She was following in the footsteps of her elder sister, Vicky. Three years before, the Princess Royal had been married off
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to a much grander prince, Frederick of Prussia, and she had been enduring life in the stiff Prussian court ever since
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Being a princess in the 19th century sounds absolutely miserable. Vicki, particularly, off in Prussia and very, very isolated
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very, very suspicious of some of the people around her, living a fairly kind of unfulfilled existence
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To be propelled off into the world like that and to be planted in an alien environment
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I think must have been pretty unsettling. Seeking solace from her family at home
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from her family at home, Vicky regularly wrote to her mother, but the letters she received
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back were not always ones of comfort. On hearing that Vicky was newly pregnant, the queen wrote
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to her. The horrid news has upset us dreadfully. The princess valiantly replied. You know I
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love little children so much, and I own one must feel rather proud to think one has given
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life to an immortal soul very fine dear but i own i cannot enter into that i think much more of us
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being like a cow or dog at such moments when our poor nature becomes so very animal and un ecstatic
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vicky may have been 700 miles from windsor but that was no escape from her indomitable mother
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the pair exchanged 8 000 letters in what would be a lifelong correspondence
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that showed both mutual love and the Queen's obsessive and demanding manner
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With Vicky, she has the possibility of being her true self and she is remarkably unguarded
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Victoria is one of the great letter writers of the 19th century. She pours out what's on her mind, which is often a stream of anxieties
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Your answers yesterday by telegram are not quite satisfactory and you don't say whether
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your cold is better or not. Were you feverishly unwell with it or not? I get terribly fidgeted
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at not knowing what is really the matter. i really hope you are not getting fat again do avoid eating soft
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pappy things or drinking much you know how that fattens they would fire these things off to each other all the time and the ones that are coming from
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victoria are trying to exert from hundreds of miles away the kind of control that she tried to
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to exert over her children you know when they were small And so there were these directives telling vicky about how to micromanage her life i wish you for the future to adopt the plan of beginning your letters with the
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following sort of headings yesterday or day before we did so and so dined here or there
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and then where you spent the evening she ruled the roost domestically and that i think was the the key thing she was just jolly well
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determined that her children were going to behave like subjects queen victoria's desire to control
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her children i think was pathological and i think was that of a domestic dictator the queen wasn't
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just a domestic tyrant she could seem shockingly unsympathetic when a pregnant vicky fell down the
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stairs and badly sprained her ankle her mother wrote i fear you exaggerate as you so often used
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to do others who do not know your disposition think you are really ill which you are not
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vicky seemed to be cowed by her mother and often begged for forgiveness
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don't be angry dear mama it is very painful to think i have annoyed you or displeased you
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The courtier, Baron Stockmar, was horrified by the correspondence. Her mother is behaving abominably to her
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The Queen wishes to exercise the same authority and control over her that she did before her marriage
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and she writes constant letters full of anger and reproaches. one issue above all brought victoria into fierce conflict with both vicky and alice in germany
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breastfeeding the queen detested babies she called them frog-like victoria absolutely refused to
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breastfeed her children which is kind of surprising because it was becoming very
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very acceptable for women, even fashionable for women, to breastfeed their babies
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Upper-class women were doing it as well. The Queen commanded her daughters not to breastfeed their own babies
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but Vicky and Alice would later disobey their mother, asserting a woman's right to breastfeed whatever her status
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Victoria was disgusted and outraged at her daughter's disobedience. It does make my hair stand on end to think that my two daughters should turn into cows
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The Queen took her revenge on her daughter, naming a cow in one of her dairies Princess Alice
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For years after Albert's death, Victoria's remaining unmarried daughters, Helena, Louise
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and Beatrice, were prisoners in the vaults of grief that were the royal palaces
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No one found life more claustrophobic than the second youngest daughter, Princess Louise
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She constantly chafed against her mother's unyielding grip. Louise was a bit of a rebel
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and her mother described her as rather backward and rather difficult, i.e. she was a bit more trouble
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She was a teenager just when her father died, just at the age when she thought her world, her horizons would widen
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and they narrowed considerably. And she was watched and protected all the time
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and it was stifling victoria would unleash her power at random louise once arranged to have tea
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with a friend at court only to be forced to cancel when on a whim the queen stopped her from going
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louise's note of apology to the courtier seemed to be a thinly disguised attack on her mother
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the Queen seems not to wish me to leave her therefore I have to ask to be excused but not
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without me expressing my great disappointment at not being able to come Victoria very jealously
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guarded her children's affections she really disliked it when they formed close companionships
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with each other let alone with people outside the family she seemed to believe that she had
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to be the kind of flame around which they all revolved. Never make friendships
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Girl friendships and intimacies are very bad and often lead to great mischief
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Victoria not only prevented Louise from having friendships, she also forbade the entertainments that were usually part of a princess's upbringing
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when she was 17 she should have had her coming out dance as every other girl of her age was having
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and the queen refused she said that she had not opened the ballroom at buckingham palace
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since albert had been alive and she wasn't going to do it for any dance for louise
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queen victoria's efforts to limit her daughter's social lives may have had its roots in her own
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isolated and loveless childhood she recalled her loneliness i was not on comfortable or at all
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intimate or confidential footing with my mother it comes from being this very cloistered only child
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and i think she was very hungry for proper human love and attention and as soon as they knew she
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was heir to the throne she was made to feel the center of attention she was the most important
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because she was going to be Queen of England. As a mother herself
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Victoria found it difficult to show her children affection, even when they were very young
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Only very exceptionally do I find the rather intimate intercourse with them either agreeable or easy
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She had very ambivalent feelings about all her daughters, and she's one of those people with a very small heart, Queen Victoria
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So if she's liking, say, two or three of the children at once, it means that the other six are out of it and she detests them
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Victoria's disapproval could demolish her daughter's self-confidence. As a girl, Louise had once said..
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I am so stupid and useless. the Queen seemed to judge her children by their looks always prizing beauty you are wrong in
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thinking that I am not fond of children I am I admire pretty ones immensely Victoria was
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particularly unimpressed with Helena the middle child nicknamed Lenthin whom she criticized for being the least good of the five princesses dear poor Lenthin has great difficulties with her figure Her features are so very large and long that it quite spoils her looks
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Helena was the plainest of the Queen's children, and she also wrestled with her weight
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This was not unusual in Victoria's family. Victoria herself frequently weighed almost 12 stone, despite being only 4 feet 11
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but it was Helena who was blamed for not getting grip on her weight
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By contrast, the pretty Louise had gained the confidence to stand up to her overbearing mother
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Desperate to break away, Victoria's daughter had an artistic bent, which she followed
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She took up sculpture and had her own studio to which she could escape
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The Queen tried to stop her, believing the art form was not ladylike
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calling it unnatural for a girl, and especially a princess. But that didn't stop Louise
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Once Princess Louise set her mind to something, she was a powerhouse
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She wasn't going to stop. That was her purpose. And as with all things with Louise, one track, I have to get this to happen
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I think in choosing a sculpture, Louise was probably pushing the boundaries a bit
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trying to see what her mother would take and what she wouldn't as strong-willed as her mother louise's determination paid off
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victoria gave in and let her be the first princess to attend a public school
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in 1868 louise went to the national art training school joining the pioneering generation of women who were learning sculpture
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But the Queen was horrified by what her daughter would be exposed to
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One of the real worries about women enrolling in art class was this problem of what they would do in the life class
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The life class is where you draw or look or sculpt from a nude model
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It would be much better if she stuck to painting. You paint the spaniels, you paint the ladies-in-waiting
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but it doesn't require you, as it were, to get to grips with the human form
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Victoria would not stand for such unladylike activity. She limited Louise's attendance at the school by demanding that she stay at home to help with the Queen's large private correspondence
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The other students were astonished at how hard a princess worked. They couldn't believe that she was constantly having to miss lessons because she was working
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They'd all assumed she'd be some spoilt brat, and there she was, working harder than any other woman and men of their acquaintance
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Not one to be stopped, Louise persevered, and went on to become the first female sculptor to have a statue erected in a public place
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The statue, appropriately enough, of her mother, still stands outside Kensington Palace in London
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I think that Louise was pushing the boundaries of the behaviour of women in the mid-19th century
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and also in the moulding, if you like, of what we consider the monarchy today
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Louise's 25-year-old sister Vicky, living in Germany, was less fulfilled. able and clever she had been groomed by albert to be a force for change in hidebound prussia
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but the reality was that she didn't have the influence she had expected
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without a role vicky set herself up as a matchmaker for her siblings vicky threw herself into this
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partly one suspects because it um it gave her something to do it gave her a sense of empowerment
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in an environment where she so often felt disempowered the princess set her sights on her sister helena
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aged 19 this unremarkable young woman was ready to be married off to an appropriate suitor
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vicky found a match that surprisingly delighted the demanding queen her german friend prince christian
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he was 15 years older than helena but appeared considerably older than that
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he is of moderate height uh stooping bald-headed later on things go from bad to worse in 1891
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helena's brother arthur shoots prince christian in the eye a shooting accident
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christian rather takes this on the chin and indeed embraces it as an opportunity for fun
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and acquires an enormous collection of glass eyes which at dull moments during banquets or dinner
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parties he would summon a footman to bring to the table for the edification of fellow guests
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he might have been penniless and homeless but victoria was thrilled with her unprepossessing
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new son-in-law for her there was an advantage to his poverty the queen knew that by marrying helena
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prince christian would have to settle in britain and live at windsor with her
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she won't allow them to marry anybody who will take them away so she has to find these rather
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sort of tame neutered well not not physically but politically uh neutered princes uh who will agree
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have no money and by princely standards and will agree to come and live um in victoria's court
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because she doesn't want to lose her daughters so she clings possessively
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it makes me shudder the queen had told vicky when she left home when i look round at all
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your sweet happy unconscious sisters and think i must give them up too one by one
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Helena and Prince Christian remain tied to Windsor for the rest of their lives
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poor old Christian who ended up in this rather absurd role living on the estate at Windsor
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managing Frogmore managing the park and it was his job to do things like make sure there weren't
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too many frogs hopping around at Frogmore his plan to solve this problem was to import ducks
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The ducks ate the frog spawn, the numbers of frogs were reduced
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But this was the kind of thing he had to deal with. He wasn't managing the reunification of Germany
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He was worrying about vermin on the estate at Windsor. The marriage may have pleased the Queen
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but it angered Princess Alice, who saw it for what it was
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a cynical ploy to keep Helena at home. To Victoria's fury, Alice openly objected to the match
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The Queen was to call her... A mischief man. and untruth teller the real devil in the family
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this was the beginning of a rift between alice and her mother that would never heal
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victoria didn't support her daughter when a year later she was in trouble
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alice was marooned with her young family in the war-torn german state of hesse darmstadt
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where they lived in the decade after she married they suffered through two wars
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in which prussian forces tore europe apart Alice wrote to her mother how I pray some end may soon come to this horrid bloodshed
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oh the misery around us you can't imagine but in England Victoria still seething from her earlier
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sent a flurry of vitriolic letters criticising her daughter. She has become so sharp and bitter
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and no-one wishes to have her in their house. In her exasperation, Victoria became careless
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She wrote a letter to Vicki, telling Vicki everything she thought wrong about Alice
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But unfortunately, she put the letter for Vicki in an envelope addressed to Alice
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addressed to Alice and vice versa. So Alice got the letter saying, you know, to Vicky
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saying all the dreadful things she's done. And when Victoria hears this, she's a bit vexed
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but her comment is to say, well, um, it's actually jolly good for Alice
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to know what her mother thinks about her. The Queen was unrepentant
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First of all, to say how greatly annoyed and vexed I am at the mistake about the letter, which is shocking and, to me, unaccountable
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But I think, as it is, no harm is done, but good will come out of it
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That's one of the wonderful things about Victoria, she never, you know, she never dissembles
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She always just says what she thinks, and I think, in a way, that's rather splendid
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because so much of courtly etiquette is about, you know, keeping your mouth shut and being sort of discreet and quiet
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Not at all Victoria. Alice continued to defy the Queen. She found liberation in nursing and medicine
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which she knew would shock her mother. Surrounded by injured soldiers in her war-torn German state
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she asked Victoria to send help from England. Illness and wounds would be dreadful in this heat
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Coarse linen and rags are the things of which one can't have enough. And I am working, collecting shirts, sheets
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And now I come to ask if you could send me some old linen for rags
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Alice doesn't want to just be one of these show nurses who just put on an apron and don't do anything
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She really wants to be hands-on. This kind of nursing was dangerous
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The soldiers were suffering from contagious diseases such as smallpox. Undaunted by the risks, Alice was driven to finding a practical role for herself in the world of medicine
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saying life was made for work and not pleasure. Alice's nursing upset the Queen
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Though she had praised nurses in the past, Victoria was appalled that a princess of the royal blood
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should work so closely with the human body and should be so fascinated by its workings
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She objected to Alice being interested in obstetrics, in gynaecology and particularly in Alice quizzing her married sisters and sisters-in-law
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on such matters as what their childbirth had been like, what their pregnancies had been like
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When Louise is going to visit Alice, Queen Victoria writes to Louise
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don't be pumped by Alice, be cautious and silent about your interior
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And what Victoria meant by that was, don't talk about anything to do with sex or anatomy
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because this is not subject that you should be allowing Alice to be involved in
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In the face of her mother's disapproval, Alice stubbornly persisted in her work
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Advised by Florence Nightingale, the princess established organisations which revolutionised nursing in Germany
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In 1871, she set up beds for the wounded in palace gardens
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Alice's actions suggest a way forward for monarchy. It is, if you like, a precursor to the welfare monarchy that we enjoy today
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that this is hands-on philanthropy, and it's moving away from a white-gloved detachment
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The Queen would get her own back on her defiant daughter. Impoverished by the wars, Alice wrote regularly to Victoria
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begging for money to fund her royal lifestyle. but most requests were simply ignored
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When Alice returned home for a visit, a courtier described how Princess Alice at Osborne had talked very loudly at dinner
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about a horse she wanted, quiet enough for herself and strong enough for Louis
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but the Queen changed the discourse pretty smartly to the beef and cutlets
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Conflict between the Queen and her second daughter had pushed them into near estrangement
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But another princess was also causing trouble. Unmarried sculptress Louise was rebellious
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and her looks and charm were wreaking havoc. She had lovely, wide-apart blue eyes
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this fair hair, curly. She liked to wear blue ribbons in it
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She had the best figure of all Queen Victoria's daughters. Slender, she was very fit
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She was actually a very well-rounded, delightful person. I think that people enjoyed sitting next to her
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She wasn't at all stuffy. One artist said of Louise... If I were a young man, I should not rest until that lovely girl had promised to marry me
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But for Victoria, having a beautiful daughter had its problems. in 1869 when princess Louise was 21 the dashing sculptor Sir Edgar Boehm was invited to stay at Balmoral He was to teach the princess while sculpting a bust of Victoria highland servant and confidant John Brown
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Joseph Edgar Boehm was extremely charismatic and good-looking, and right from the beginning, there was a wonderful rapport between him and Louise
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Queen Victoria had asked John Brown to keep an eye on Louise and Bohm
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Louise found him incredibly intrusive, all of the royal children did. They felt he was a spy for their mother
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Brown reported to Victoria on the flirtatious couple. He and the Queen were then said to have burst in on the pair
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as they enjoyed an intimate moment. Louise realised that Brown had been spying
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Louise says, John Brown, this is your doing, shakes him by the shoulders and says
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either you go or I go. And after this stormy event, the only solution is that somebody must quickly find a husband for Louise
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While the princess was not going to be pushed into an arranged marriage to a chinless German royal
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the Queen had precise ideas for her dynasty. for her dynasty. Her husband should above all be royal and come from the right stock
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The way Queen Victoria described the marriage partners reminds us of genetic engineering
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or something. I mean, she was really precise. At one point she said she wants some dark
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hair now, she wants some dark blood in there. They do talk about marriage partners like
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horse breeding or dog breeding. With a desperate shortage of acceptable princes for Louise, the whole family became involved, each favouring a different candidate
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I recommend you to take my advice and not forget Albert of Prussia. He is good and excellent
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I know the violence of your feelings against him, but I have not refrained from again repeating in the interest of both our fathers
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Lord Camperdown is poor, but he'll be rich at his mother's death. She is the daughter of Sir George Philip
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A remarkably nice young man with such good manners and very good looking
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Louise despaired. Everyone is speaking for or against this. And it is most uncommonly unpleasant
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And I am to decide without a proper chance of knowing anyone
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Louise was a modern woman. She did not want to marry anyone of their choice
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She did not want to marry a foreign prince. She was particularly put off Prussian men
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She allegedly said that they smelt bad and they had an appalling sense of humour
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The Queen herself had to admit there were no suitable princes. Times have much changed
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Great foreign alliances are looked on as causes of trouble and anxiety and are no good
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With much of Europe at war, she was forced to give up the plan of marrying all her children to European royalty
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Victoria turned to a reference book that listed not royals, but aristocrats, Burke's Guide to the Peerage
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For once, Louise and Queen Victoria were of like minds that Louise would marry someone British, home-born
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Now, this was completely revolutionary. Eventually, Louise accepted the proposal of an approved candidate
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John, Marquess of Lorne, the heir to the Dukedom of Argyle. He was a romantic-looking figure
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He had this lovely, thick, luxuriant, fair, fair hair. He had Campbell piercing blue eyes and was considered cultured
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He was politically astute. He had travelled. He had gone to America
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He wrote articles. He dabbled in writing poetry. In 1871, Louise and her British aristocrat were married
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It was the first time in centuries that a princess had been allowed to marry outside royalty
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The public were thrilled. They were really fed up with all this foreign royalty stealing their royal princes and princesses
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And they were so pleased. It was the best PR move that Louise could have done
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The public at large might have been pleased, but the marriage was an unhappy one
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Rumours about Lorne may offer an explanation. When you try to research the Marquess of Lorne here, you come up against a lot of allegedly's
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possibly's, maybes about the fact that he was gay. There's a great deal of shrouding it all in mystery
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And there's an interesting story that Princess Louise, when she and her husband were living in Kensington Palace
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had the French windows in their apartments bricked up so that she could stop her husband getting out at night
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and cruising soldiers in the park. The Queen, in a rare show of sympathy
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came to appreciate how unhappy the marriage was. She was very much on her daughter's side
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and she was never normally on her daughter's side. So perhaps she had finally been made aware of the true nature of Lorne's sexuality
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Scandal would not die down. Much to Victoria's horror, years later other rumours surfaced
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this time over Louise and her relationship with her former teacher, Sir Edgar Byrne
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She was visiting him one day in his studio and he collapsed and died
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The gossips all said that he died in her arms, in flagrante
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but it could be that he just died. The princess could not deny that she was at the studio
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at the time of the sculptor's death. She claimed that she had been chaperoned by a lady-in-waiting
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Louise described how, during the visit, Sir Edgar carried a bust to show me when I entreated him not to
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He also pushed some heavy things and must have overexerted himself. The Queen was terrified of any damage to the royal reputation
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When scandal threatened, she always publicly supported her family. but in private, Victoria continued to fight her never-ending battle for control
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By 1872 Beatrice the baby Victoria had clung to for comfort when Albert died was her only unmarried daughter
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The Queen was determined it should stay that way. She is my constant companion and I hope and trust will never leave me while I live
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her youngest daughter always known as baby um occupied a central position in victoria's emotional
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life the consequence for poor beatrice was that she was babyfied virtually for life it was a tragic
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existence she was sent off to bed early she wasn't allowed to become an adult
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Beatrice was totally cowed by Victoria. Beatrice hardly did open her mouth at lunch
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except to put food in it. In case she said something, her mother jumped on
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However much she wanted to, Victoria couldn't keep Beatrice infantilised forever. The opposite happened
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Under the stifling control of her mother, she seemed to age prematurely
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There is a sense in which Beatrice and Victoria almost become the same age
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She appears to take on a number of the characteristics of a much older person
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She begins to suffer from really quite extreme rheumatism. Her figure fills out. She becomes rather portly
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Desperate to keep her by her side, the aging Victoria did her utmost to put Beatrice off marriage
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dinner guests were reprimanded by the queen for mentioning the words engagement or wedding in the
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princess's presence at one point there's a german prince that beatrice may have taken a bit of a
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shine to and so victoria arranges for this young man who's very good looking to sit beside beatrice
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all through a formal dinner and she instructs beatrice that she is not to direct a single word
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to this young man uh this poor young man doesn't know what he's done he's absolutely baffled
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leaves the table and obviously thinks well that's obviously i've misread the signs obviously
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princess beatrice is not interested in me at all despite victoria's scheming in 1884 beatrice the
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most obedient of daughters made a bid for freedom aged 27 she fell in love with henry prince of
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battenberg and announced she wanted to marry this is the great moment of beatrice flexing her
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muscles this is the one really significant independent action of her life the only time
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when she puts up a stand against the queen on a matter of any importance
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she was desperate at that moment to escape and to attain this sort of adulthood
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Victoria flatly refused even to discuss the possibility of Beatrice marrying. She's furious at what she almost regards as Beatrice's treachery
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and I think that Queen Victoria's response is a cruelest thing that she does in her life
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For about six months, Victoria would not talk to her. She communicated to her with little notes
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They were sitting at breakfast together and she would pass her a note with her eyes averted
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Because this was such an outrage, she was going against what her mother needed
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Everything with Victoria was about me, my needs, my need for love, my need for care, my need for company
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It was never, ever really a case of, what can I do for them
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Eventually, the Queen gave way to her tenacious daughter. Victoria allowed the marriage to go ahead on the condition once again that Beatrice and Prince Henry should always remain with her at Windsor
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Victoria was uncomfortable with the physical side of her daughter's relationship. She hoped and prayed there would be no results for some time
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During the engagement, the Queen had been thankful there was no kissing, etc., which Beatrice dislikes
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One of the strangest things about Victoria's attitudes is the way that she seems to resent the sexual and the romantic lives of her children
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They become an area of difficulty for her. Victoria did not only need to have power over every aspect of her daughter's lives
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she wanted precedence over them too. In 1871, Vicky's father-in-law had been named German Emperor
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making her the future German Empress. The Queen was put out by this potential new title
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Queen Victoria is rank conscious, and in her own mind she is the topmost reigning monarch in the world
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She's quite clear about that. She is therefore troubled by the fact that her eldest daughter is going to become an empress and that she herself is not an empress
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Not to be outdone, Victoria had the Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli proclaim her Empress of India first
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Disraeli was clear about her motives. He is recorded as saying, Her daughter will have imperial rank and she cannot bear to be in a lower position
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The Queen also felt threatened by Vicky's intellect. Her daughter was interested in scientific progress and modern thought
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ideas which challenged her mother's world view. Vicky was highly intellectual. She was enlightened, she was radical
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Queen Victoria said, really, you're so radical, I could almost believe that you're a Republican
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So she was very forward-looking, very intellectual, very intelligent, very sympathetic, and really quite unroyal in a strange kind of way
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Vicki was that ultimate paradox, the intelligent royal. Vicki shocked her mother by reading Charles Darwin's radical new book
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The Origin of the Species, which put forward the theory of evolution
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The Queen feared that Vicky was turning into a modern skeptic, as she warned one of her daughters
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Don't you listen to her. Don't you let your firm faith ever be shaken
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Don't you read those books. Don't follow her advice in many things. Pray, pray, don't
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There could be nothing more profane than the work of Karl Marx
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Vicky read the revolutionaries Das Kapital and was eager to hear more of his ideas
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Careful to avoid enraging the Queen she asked her friend the MP Sir Grant Duff to go and discreetly meet the Communists on her behalf
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Grant Duff, having expected to be disgusted and repelled by this firebrand
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in fact wrote back that he seemed a very genial and rather clever man
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Marx was obviously at his most charming and asked for his compliments to be passed to the Princess Royal and her Prussian husband
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But it was her daughter Louise's interest in a new movement that made the deeply conservative Victoria's blood boil
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The Queen would be a symbol of female strength and independence for generations to come
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Despite this, she was horrified by the rise of the women's movement
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The Queen is most anxious to enlist everyone who can speak or write to join in checking this mad, wicked folly of women's rights
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It is a subject which makes the Queen so furious that she cannot contain herself
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It's hard to imagine anybody on this planet who's ever been less of a feminist than Queen Victoria
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She thought it was positively wicked. She thought women belonged in the home
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Although she was living at a time when there were lots of people
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who were beginning to ask, intellectual, middle-class women and upper-class women, why they shouldn't have the vote
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why they shouldn't go to university, why they shouldn't be educated in the same way that boys were educated
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For Princess Louise, female emancipation became a burning commitment. The flame had been lit when she went to see Elizabeth Garrett
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the first woman in Britain to qualify as a surgeon and an ardent supporter of women's rights
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When the princess arrived, the pioneering doctor was up a ladder hanging wallpaper
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Elizabeth Garrett was amazed to see this delightful young lady who was interested in meeting her
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and wanted to learn all about her training and her education as she was leaving, she said to Elizabeth Garrett
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please don't tell the Queen about my visit. Unfortunately, word got out and the Queen was furious
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when she discovered what Louise had done. It's psychologically interesting that somebody who had been made
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to really bow down to her mother had managed to reach a point when she was strong enough and feisty enough and independent enough
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to go against her mother's wishes and to do what she wanted to do
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in terms of meeting this woman, who was single-handedly changing female history in Britain
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In 1866, Garrett and other prominent women had signed one of the first petitions demanding votes for women
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Louise supported the controversial movement, but she didn't sign. As a royal, she wasn't allowed to take a political position
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political position. As Victoria reached old age, the daughters became more daring, but
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still had to work hard to avoid their mother's wrath. Although Victoria had an amazing kind
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of surveillance system and kept tabs on absolutely everybody, I think the daughters were very
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very good, as it were, of sort of going under the radar and getting involved in activities
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that they knew Victoria would not necessarily be approving of, but they did it nonetheless
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Victoria had always encouraged giving to charity, but her daughters took the idea of philanthropy one step further
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In later years, Princess Louise became known for her work with hospitals
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tirelessly visiting wounded soldiers and encouraging nurses. She devoted much of her life to helping women find new roles
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at a time when they were expected to stay at home. She herself worked vociferously in female education and in getting women into work
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It was very touching, actually, that she wanted to work so hard in an area which she very much felt, together with her sisters, that their mother was neglecting
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Other sisters also developed a deep interest in the position of women
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Helena was one of the founders of the British Red Cross, helping women get into medicine
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In Germany, Vicky and Alice broke new ground, setting up organisations for women that encouraged them to earn an independent living
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As the 20th century dawned, women started to join the workforce in greater numbers than ever before
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By sheer determination, the daughters had not only escaped their mother's clutches
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to carve new paths for princesses, but had helped to redefine the female role
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Victoria's daughters open up a whole set of possibilities for middle-class and working-class women towards the end of the 20th century
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Things like nursing, social work, local government work, teaching even, become professionalised
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They grow out of that philanthropic moment and become career possibilities for ordinary middle-class women
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The daughters may have been quiet revolutionaries, but they were always conscious of protecting the royal image
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After Victoria's death, Princess Beatrice edited and transcribed all of the late Queen's letters and journals
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She burnt most of the originals. The princess tried to ensure that posterity would only see the best side of Victoria
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But try as she might, she couldn't hide the fact that her mother had been headstrong, emotional and controlling
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Characteristics that her daughters also inherited. Queen Victoria found her daughters difficult a lot of the time
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And yet, of course, when you look at these strong personalities and their radical interests and their great desire to bring about change
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stems from them being the daughter of this very strong-willed woman who was running the empire
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She'd wanted them to have that strength in many other ways. She just didn't like it when it came up against her
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In the final episode tomorrow, the battles between Bertie and his mum
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and how his brother Leopold wasn't going to be held back either. Victorious children again at nine o'clock
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